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An objective view of the RBB’s antics at the Grand Final

Before I get into the article, yes, I am a Sydney FC fan, but no, the ‘rivalry’ between clubs has had no bearing on this piece. Make what you want out of that, but at the end of the day, I am an Australian football supporter before my Sky Blue allegiance, and I am, to my best ability, looking at the final as a neutral.

On the 21st of April, 2013, the A-League reached the pinnacle of its season for the eighth time. The game culminated arguably the greatest ever domestic season of football in Australia, from the colour and atmosphere off the field, to world class marquees and flowing football on it. It was meant to be not only a day of celebration for either of the two participating teams, Central Coast Mariners and Western Sydney Wanderers, but for all fans across the nation who has watched their beloved round ball game soar to unprecedented levels.

Of course, Central Coast Mariners came out 2-0 victors, finally winning their first grand final at the fourth attempt. The plate heads north of Sydney at last, to the delight off all “Coasties.” By no means was this a disappointment for the Western Sydney Wanderers, who fell just short of the perfect fairy tale. The club can hold its head high, knowing they have had a season to remember, and who were written off by nearly all accounts at the start of the year.

But in the aftermath of the Grand Final, reports have flooded out with the Red and Black Bloc at the centre of some issues. I was at the Grand Final yesterday, and I sat opposite the RBB, cheering on the Mariners out of pity more than for any duty to the Central Coast team. In my opinion, they were on song for the majority of the time. What seemed like nonstop chanting, their call and response with the sidelines was almost a replica of what we’ve seen at Parramatta Stadium. It must also be said, that the Yellow Army were in full voice also. Usually the butt of jokes in terms of active support, I was quite impressed by their performance, sitting to the right of the group.

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How flares should be used…
(Thanks Shaheen Badat/@Red_n_Black_Boy)

But still these reports have tarnished the final. The majority of them highlight the focal points of the RBB’s actions. The first would have to be f-word that many shudder at the sound of. Of course, it’s the use of flares. Make up your own decision about them, but in my opinion, flares add colour and atmosphere to the greatest sport of all, and when used in a safe environment, they can be quite the spectacle. I have never had an issue with fans lighting a few flares in designated active support bays. So when I saw a few lit by the RBB, I was not bothered. I can’t however talk for some Central Coast supporters around me, as a chorus of boos rung out at the sight of coloured smoke emitting from the home end.

Of course, you will get the few who dislike the idea of flares. At the end of the day, they are being misused, and such heat released from these tubes containing explosive chemicals can spell big danger and harm. I’m not here to discuss the age old question about the taboo on flares, but after the RBB had opened numerous more flares, their effect died on me and I started questioning the use. In moderation, I think they are great, but when they are continually used, I can understand the argument of “anti-flarists.”

However, there is no, and I repeat, NO excuse to throw flares in direction of anyone. Throwing them in your own end is not only pure stupidity, but highly unsafe. Only a few months ago we heard about a girl at the music festival, Soundwave, suffering severe burns after being hit by an airborne flare. Even worse, a young Corinthian fan, aged only 14, was killed after being struck by a flare in February of this year.

The first flare I saw thrown was out of the stands and at the grounds in between the field and the supporter bay.  Although no malice (I hope) was intended, that is just an idiotic act. But the obvious one was the flare thrown at Daniel McBreen as he stood over his penalty kick. Shannon Cole, looking almost embarrassed, picked up the flare and threw it off the field. When you endanger the well being of the players, you need to seriously look at yourself and why you are supporting football.  There is never a reason to launch a flare, and I sincerely hope those responsible get the highest of penalties applicable.

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How flares shouldn’t be used…

Although many will not agree with me, I am happy to stand up for the RBB and suggest that the ones who threw them were not part of the main group, and big games will always attract the wrong type of people, who egged on by idiotic mates and the pressure and tension of a grand final, resorts to dim-witted actions to look cool and ‘part of it.’ Both flares, from what I saw, were thrown from outside the main bay of fans, towards the left of them. However it is concerning that although I think it was done by a flog, there has been multiple flares thrown from the RBB and on to the field, most recently in the Sydney Derby at Sydney FC goalkeeper Ivan Necevski, as he lined up to take a goal kick. In fact there have been flares thrown at every Sydney Derby this year. It is time for the RBB to moderate the use of flares, and use them sparingly. Maybe then we will have less of a dark shadow casted, ironically, on the bright atmosphere they can create.

The next talking point was the state Bay 23 was left at the conclusion of the Grand Final. For those not in the know, Bay 23 is home to Sydney FC’s Active Support Group, The Cove. Questions were raised as to why the rivals of the tenant of the ground were allowed to stand in the same area, but logistically, the large number of fans needed the larger end. However what ensued after the full time whistle was disappointing to see. Rows of chair were ripped up and thrown. Images spread all over social media, and then into the hands of football’s number one enemy, the media. And this time, I cannot defend, let alone come to plausible terms to why this happened. What is worse was that the fans had the nerve to boast about their actions, attempting to give it to Sydney FC fans, but embarrassing the club they apparently love.

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Finally, a real terrace?

And I am sorry, this time I’m not buying into the fact that they collapsed under the weight of your Poznan or whatever excuse you mustered up. The Cove have stood and jumped on chairs for seasons on end without anything similar to what happened to the bay at the final. It is quite obvious also from the pictures that emerged that the damage was done by force and on purpose. Similarly to the throwing of flares, there is no excuse.

The final issue is the actions of the RBB during the anthem and the presentation of medals. I will stand up for the RBB and say, as a Bay 23/The Cove goer, the PA system is very poor there, and under immense chanting, it is barely audible. I can easily see why the RBB continued with their chant at the start of the anthem, and after acknowledging what was going on, they duly stopped and joined in with the rest of the stadium. Any person with comments saying the group is disrespectful to the nation and the anthem only need to look at the Australia Day game against Melbourne Heart where the group sung the anthem proudly.

With the Poznan during the presentation of medals to Central Coast, I can see how there are two sides to that story. Majority will say that the fans were being bitter about the result, and as a sign of disrespect, turned their backs on the fans. That is a very simple and narrow minded view, but it is understandable. The other side of the argument suggests that the RBB did the Poznan to show the players that although you did get second place, we will always support you. For those with any knowledge of active support overseas, the Poznan is meant to be symbolic of the passion of fans as they show they will always support and chant for their team no matter what is happening on the field, expressed as they look away from the ground. The intent meant no malice, but the timing was extremely poor, and the majority will view the circumstances negatively.

Overall, I personally find that the RBB are getting heavily hit with unfair reports about the main focal points. However, there are always steps to be taken to eliminate the possibility of negative press. The majority of complaints by the general football public are valid, and some acts, such as the throwing of flares, have no justification. Ever. It will be interesting what road the RBB take next season, as if they continue with repetitive, over the top antics, I fear the FFA and respective state Polices will crack down harder than ever on a group that have really taken active support to a new level in Australia.

Congratulations to Central Coast Mariners once more, and commiserations to the Western Sydney Wanderers. On the field, it was an amazing spectacle.

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A disciple since young, Jordan has passionately followed the round ball game. For years, he's played and attended games, both taking him all over the country. A part time Chelsea FC fan, the majority of Jordan's love and support lies with Sydney FC. Follow on Twitter: @jordan_lorusso
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13 Comments on An objective view of the RBB’s antics at the Grand Final

  1. Like what your saying here Jordan agree with the fact that flares are ok within moderation, I just couldn’t quite get why the RBB continually let of flares when nothing had happened. me being a passionate at foundation MVFC fan I have seen many flares over the years but we only generally are let of after a goal or when the teams come out or in a protest. Apart from this the crowd looked Amazing and I especially happy to see the Yellow Army grow from 20 last week to around 500 yesterday looked fantastic and hope they can continue it and also credit to the WSW fans for bringing to the league arguably the most vocal and colorful set of supporters in the league can really see them having 30k members in the future
    Once again great article.

    Mitch, loyal MVFC fan

    • Jordan Lo Russo // April 23, 2013 at 12:22 am //

      Agree Mitch. The flares were quite over the top, and detracted from what they could have created. I was impressed also by the Mariners, sitting right next to them. Very loud and colourful!

  2. I agree that most RBB fans are ok, but you have got to be kidding that you think flares are ok at all. Jordan you stated your self the reason that they are not ok, they are a danger to everyone any where near them, I was quite disappointed in the security that they even managed to get the flares in, as for the destroying of the cove, it just proves the problems that many people have with the RBB and most of the WSW fan….. I am a mariners fan from the beginning and have never understood how people dont get that there are only 300,000 coasties which is easily the smallest fan base of all clubs, give us the 2+ million people then we will have the supporters that the WSW and all the otheer bigger cities have….. now im not saying you guys are wrong im just voicing my opinions

    • Jordan Lo Russo // April 23, 2013 at 12:18 am //

      Hey mate, I can see where you are coming from with the flares, but view on the debate is that it is similar to the drugs debate. No matter how much you ban them/make them illegal, inevitably they will still be brought into grounds. It is therefore key to moderate the use.

    • “they are a danger to everyone any where near them”

      Assuming the total number of flares let off by the RBB throughout the season is approximately 100, you’d expect to be a serious number of people reporting injuries sustained. This is not the case. Yes, flares have the potential to be very harmful, however, there are lots of others things that can cause serious harm.

      “destroying of the cove”

      If you take a look at the photo of the seats, you will see the steel structure gave way. Unless you are suggesting security and police watched people purposely try and break the very seats they had to sit on at half time or do the Poznan on?

      • Jordan Lo Russo // April 23, 2013 at 10:48 am //

        Hey Adrian, I think you’re arguing the same point about flares that I am too. With the seats, a multitude of teens posted photos all over social media bragging about their work. On second thought I would have changed my article to say that the fact that some were broken on purpose in an act of hooliganism makes it harder for the general public to believe they collapsed under the weight

  3. No dude, flares were not thrown onto the pitch in all three derbies, but you are 100% right they should not be thrown; the away bay is bigger, and no to the chairs being deliberately broken. Sure I agree a handful no doubt, bay 23 has just never had something like the Poznan with a long period jumping meaning more chance of a sudden jump in unison which doesn’t help the cause, they were mostly broken at the weak welds underneath, you can’t do that by just pushing them, that would crack the chairs, it was done by the weight on top. You were spot on with the national anthem and Poznan at the end can be seen in a few ways. We were there to chant for our team, not Mariners, we were able to watch the screen with our backs turned, but I think we should have given the Mariners respect there, they deserved to be applauded. Not a bad article but more subjective than objective.

    • Jordan Lo Russo // April 23, 2013 at 10:50 am //

      Hi Geoff, I was sure they were thrown at all 3. I might be slightly confused with the inaugural derby, but the SFS derby, there is a picture of Covic picking up a flare, and as mentioned above, at the third derby, one was thrown at Necevski. Re the seats, look for my comments above about them.

  4. Good to see some of you SFC people can put your biases aside and write something that’s generally fair and objective.

    That said, I have to pull you up about the chairs, as most that were damaged were for the exact reasons we’ve mentioned i.e. basic physics + brittle seats & weak seat supports. Your point about the odd flog posting images to brag on social media is valid but with respect your rationalisation that my version of events couldn’t be true because “The Cove have stood and jumped on chairs for seasons” is an asinine comparison of apples and oranges at best. Once again I was there, I saw it with my own eyes, and I don’t particularly care for those who make assumptions based on a logical fallacy.

    FYI The away end at SFS actually has more space due to being a single tier and many of us would have preferred it we were there yesterday.

    Better luck next season…

  5. I have to concur with some of the other replies regarding the seats. When we were doing the Poznan you could hear the seats just giving way underneath people from the weight and the jumping. You can make your own assumption on that but if you weren’t there then I don’t know how you could really know. In regards to flares yes too many were thrown and at inappropriate times. I will never agree with flares being thrown on the field or at players and 99% of active support I think would agree. Thanks for mentioning the chanting through the national anthem because what you said about not hearing the P.A is 100% correct, also we were looking at each other and chanting so we couldn’t see what was going on in field. For those who throw bottles etc on the field when a decision is made being wrong in their eyes is absolutely disgusting, disrespectful and utterly embarrassing. We don’t want so called fans like that. People get carried away when they get in group and there is no excuse for your actions, so stay away.
    Good article Jordan

  6. Carlo Sands // April 23, 2013 at 8:38 am //

    Actually, the entire row of seats behind me in bay 27 collapsed under people at the end of hte poznan, nearly causing serious injury. Not long after, the seat of the guy right in front of me broke under him, causing a nasty fall. They weren’t ripped up. I cannot speak for everywhere there were broken seats, but as active Wanderers supporters have managed to do their thing at a fairly large number of stadiums before Sunday without ripping up seats, I am going to say what I saw with my own eyes was what occured in other cases too.

  7. Contrary to what Jordan believes the cove had practically never jumped up and down on the seats. Why would we? When we sing jump up on the cove we are all standing on the ground, in front of the seats. It’s common sense.

    And that is where the rbb lacks. If you were doing the poznan on the seats not only are you stupid but you should all be individually held liable for the damages. If you weren’t standing in your assigned seats the rbb should collectively be held responsible and be made to pay for the damages.

    Why should the wsw have to pay for your idiocy.

    I’d say there should also be a dozen or more lifetime bands from that match. Anyone lighting flares should be banned for at least 10 years. Anyone throwing them should be banned for life and gave criminal convictions.
    If the rbb claim is not them they need to actively get those with flares directly pointed out to security to take them away instantly. you can always tell who lights a flare.. Ban them and kick them output the rbb for life.

  8. I was in bay 28 and witnessed a couple of young blokes trashing a seat. I managed to get to them and give them a gobful. I accept some damage was accidental but some was definitely deliberate. Overall our fans were well behaved shame about a small number of idiots who continually shame the rest of us!

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